"I said "you'll have to go back". I've always been guilty about sending this bloke back when he didn't want to go. He died up there with my brother".

"The Herald was always sold in the street and that’s when I saw that fires had been at Rubicon. I knew some of the people that had been burned".

"A little bit further on was his wife, and Ruth the little girl. She was just lying in the middle of the road. We thought she was asleep. She must have died of asphyxiation".

"And we just got down to the SEC power house and we could see this fire coming, we could see the trees ablaze".